S4E1: The Power of Prayer with Pastor Brenda Billingy

The Kingdom of Heaven is under attack! The enemy is viciously attacking our world, churches, schools, families, and children. They are left wandering through the spiritual rubble with no covering or protection for their future. We are indeed living in a spiritual war zone, and people are badly injured and hurting, even in our church pews. 

What should be our response to this crisis? We can continue to ignore it and pretend that all is well, or we can face reality and realize that the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds (2 Cor. 10:3). There are some things still worth fighting for! So join our guest, Pastor Brenda Billingy as she shares her personal testimonies of how God answers prayers! If He's done it for her, He can and will most certainly do it for you!

You can purchase the book, Let's Pray for Family Fuel as referenced in the episode on Amazon or download a free PDF on our website.

To learn more about The Trenches Prayer Initiative you can visit our website or email Davenia at davenialea@gmail.com or Pastor Billingy at bbillingy@comcast.net.

You can also join the Facebook Community of Praying Mothers where you can connect with others, be inspired, and share your thoughts and prayer requests.

Today's episode song is Someone Prayed by Angela Bryant (and lyrics inspired by our very own, Davenia Lea). We encourage you to download this song, check it out on Youtube (Someone Prayed ), like it and to share it! We pray that it encourages you!

And as always, Annie and I would love to hear from you. What burning questions do you have for our guests about love and relationships? How has your perspective on love changed your relationship? What's your ideal date night? What's the greatest love song ever? We wanna hear from you! Please share a text below or share your thoughts with us on IG @davenialeawrites, or on FB @annieraney and @daveniajoneslea.

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Thanks for listening! From our hearts to yours!!

Annie and Davenia

Transcript

Annie: Welcome to the Didn't Ask to Be a Hero podcast. I'm your host, Annie Raney. In each episode, we will get an opportunity to see how ordinary women are now living amazing, abundant, and extraordinary lives with God's help.

May their stories serve to encourage and inspire you. Let's get started.

Hello, listeners, and welcome to 2025.

And I hope that this is a fantastic year for everyone. I know for some, 2024 may have been great. For me, it wasn't so great. So I'm looking forward to a new year.

And we have an exciting topic that we want to open up our.

Our new year with, and that is the topic of prayer. And so today, Divinia and I are. We've invited a special guest who may know a little bit more about prayer than just your average Joe, if you will.

So, Divinia, happy New Year.

Davenia: Happy New Year. Annie, can you.

Annie: I know you know our guest much better than I do. Can you introduce her, please?

Davenia: Yeah, absolutely. Today we have the pleasure of conversing with my friend, my mentor, my spiritual guy, fellow prayer warrior, Pastor Brenda Billingey. And I am so excited to have her with us today.

You're correct.

When I think of prayer is synonymous with Pastor Billingy. And so I am honored and excited to have you. Welcome.

Brenda: Thank you so much. I'm excited to be here, too.

Davenia: Great, great, great. So why don't we just dive in and, you know, I'll start just by sharing a little more about our. Our connection and how we got here. Here.

I can't remember, was it in 2021 or 2022?

Brenda: Probably 21.

Davenia: And you reached out to me.

You actually said that God directed you to me to help you with this initiative called Trenches. And I don't know if I told you, but I was like, almost fell on the floor like me.

What could you possibly want me to help you with?

But from that moment, you shared your vision of this initiative called Trenches Praying in the Trenches. And since that time, it has grown in exponential ways. And so I'm going to let you share more about the initiative, but before you even get into that, give us some background history of who you are and what led you to that journey.

Brenda: You say Pastor Billingy and Pastor People know me as that, but I had a different life before I got to that point. Believe it or not, I was a financial aid director at a college for many, many, many years.

Never did I dream in my wildest dream that I would totally switch to a new profession. This late in life, that was just a God thing. So I'll tell you a really weird story.

I was sitting in the dentist chair and felt like all my teeth were going to drop out. And I went from doctor to dentist, one to the other. No one could figure out what in the world was wrong with me until the Lord whispered in my ear, one day.

Never mind. One day, we will use your mouth as my instrument.

For now, we're just doing a little cleanup work. So it was during that time when my mouth was so sore that I could not hardly talk that I learned to be silent and talk to God in prayer.

Those prayers were like, lord Jesus, get me out of this pain, please.

It was horrible.

But the time that God kept me in that mode is when I learned the value and the power of prayer. And then I switched my profession, totally became a pastor.

Prayer became such an important instrument for me because, as you know, women and pastoring didn't quite mix at that point in time for any denomination. Actually, I think God is always so willing and eager to come to your rescue and answer those prayers.

So that's how. That's how I started on this prayer journey.

Annie: Wow.

Davenia: That's incredible. So could you just share a little of how your. Your prayer life got you through some of those challenges? And how did that serve to. To either strengthen your prayer life or just put it in motion?

Brenda: Well, I'll share with you one interesting story that's really dear to my heart as I was anticipating a call to go to this particular church.

And the only reason I was anticipating it is because God told me that's where I was going to go. And how did he tell me? By a truck. I was riding down the road one day, and I said, God, you did not answer my prayer.

My prayer was, if you're really calling me into ministry, I need you to show it to me in big, bold letters so I know exactly that it's you.

But since you haven't shown me anything, I guess we're not gonna do this.

And I also gave God a second challenge. I said, if you are really calling me to this, I need you to play on the radio this particular song.

It was a song by the Bill Gaither Band. It's an old group.

If somebody played that on public radio stations, that meant they had to search and dig deep to find it.

So I was like, okay, God. That's. That's the challenge I'm putting out there.

So I'm riding down the road, and I'm laughing at God because he cannot find the song.

And I got to, like, half A mile down the road.

And that song began to play on public radio. I was so panicked, I pulled off of the road to the side of the road. I grabbed my phone and I called my husband and I said, oh, my God, this song is playing on public radio.

And just as I'm talking to him, this massive truck pulls in front of me. And at the back of the truck is the name of the church where God is sending me.

And I'm shouting at the top of my lungs to my husband, we are going to this church. It was Metropolitan Church. We are going, we are going. And my husband is on the other end.

Calm down, Brenda. What is going on? Try and relax.

Well, the end of the story is that, indeed, a couple months later, I got a phone call from the conference office saying that they had a conference call, 90, 19 people on the line, and unanimously voted to send me to this church.

Well, not all were ready for calling a female into what was considered a prominent church. At that point.

One person said to me, you know, if, if you are going to go into this position, I'm going to tell you right now it's going to be extremely difficult for, for you, and you might want to consider saying no.

And at that point, I said to this person, listen, God and I have been talking, and he told me, this is where I'm going and this is what I'm doing.

And if God said it, I don't care what any man has to say about it.

I'm going to wait until he brings it to pass and then we'll move from here. And so the ball went a rolling.

And finally when it came to pass, some of those people who were initially not ready to receive it came and apologized and said, you know, obviously this is a God thing, and because it is, we have no choice but to join in.

So there you go. Prayer again is what kept me sane through all of that, so that I was able to say, God said it.

I wait on it until it comes to pass.

Annie: Brenda, I'm going. That is such an amazing story. And, and your journey is just so miraculous to hear. I. I'm going to take it back a little bit to ask you kind of a few basic questions.

Like, I grew up in, in the church, so praying just was something that I just did because I thought that was natural. And I didn't realize until one day some friends in.

I was teaching in public school, we go, we met and we would have like, this little group, a prayer group. And then, then somebody's like, okay, why don't we have two, three people pray.

So I, I raised my hand. So I prayed. Afterwards were like, it was such a beautiful prayer. How did you learn that? And I was like.

And I got scared. I was like, what are you talking about? And so it started and somebody said, I don't know how to pray. I was like, what do you mean you don't know how to pray?

It's not a thing you need to know. It's just you do it right. I gotta ask the question.

So how would you. For someone who, let's say, is new to the faith, what is prayer? And why should let's say we as Christians pray?

Brenda: Well, one of the things that I think is important, I think we need to change the mental image that we have in our minds of what prayer looks like. You know, you think of a priest, you know, bowing, or you think of a pastor who is, you know, all of those things are okay.

However, my thought of prayer as I was raised is conversation.

You know, we didn't, we didn't always say, okay, let's bow our heads and close our eyes as we pray.

No, my parents would sometimes just break out in prayer.

She, my mom would be in the kitchen, eyes wide open, and something about her child would come to her mind and she'll, she'll be stirring the pot, but she'll be talking to God and she, she's telling him what the issue is and you know, the help that she needs.

So I, I grew up with the concept of prayer being conversation with God and especially meaningful conversation. I shouldn't just say like chit chat, but meaningful conversation. So if, if you're in dire streets, if you're, you're desperate for something meaningful conversation.

So anybody going through life can learn how to or, or be, be open to conversational prayer, bow your knees and you know, those things are fine at church, but I'm telling you, there'll be a time that you won't be able to kneel, but you will need to talk to God and.

Annie: Sorry, Divinia, I got to ask another question before I let you, but I was reading a Bible verse earlier today, Matthew 21:22. It says, and all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing ye shall receive.

Which is beautiful. And I'm sure a lot of listeners. I know Brenda knows the verse and divinion knows it, but it brings me to this question.

So many of us have prayed for things and prayed for something, and then the prayer wasn't answered.

So that can make some of us angry with God, doubt God and then this. And then it's like this verse says, whatsoever you shall ask in prayer, believing you shall receive.

And then yet the prayer isn't answered.

So how. What do we do? Or how should we feel if we pray and pray earnestly, genuinely, and yet our prayer isn't answered the way we want to be answered.

Brenda: I'm going to add another piece to that equation.

And it is the word wait.

Sometimes we don't have the patience to wait.

We know the answer that we want.

And so we're figuring, okay, God, if I'm asking for this and, you know, I'm. I'm believing that you can do it, then certainly by next week you could deliver, right?

My mom showed me what to do with that.

When my brother left our home one Friday night, he was. He was very young, still a teenager. He packed his little bags. He had enough with the restrictions and the rules and regulations of our home, and decided that he was going on his own.

My parents, you know, they had had it. They didn't know what else to do with him, and so they let him pack his bag.

And I remember him leaving the house.

And my mom, from the day he left, prayed one prayer.

God, bring my son home.

Bring my son home.

That prayer went on for years.

I mean, literally for years. It got to the point where we as children started saying to my mom, stop praying, Mom. He's not coming. He's not coming.

God doesn't want to answer that prayer. Leave it alone.

And my mom would say, oh, but my job is just to keep on praying.

I will wait, and one day God will answer this prayer.

So we left her.

One day.

I read an article that says, if people come back to you to apologize for what they've done, don't tell them about what they did and how it hurt and all of that.

Try and do the God thing and forgive, right? I let my mom read it, and I said to her, if my brother ever calls, we're not going to remind him of what he did.

We're just going to say, come on home. We love you. Just come on home.

And she agreed.

And while I was packing up to go home, the phone rang.

And mom answered it, and all the blood drained out of her face. She literally was about to faint. And I. So she just chucked the phone in my face and said, take it.

I took the phone, and there was a faint voice. I said, hello, who is this?

And the voice said, oh, this is your brother.

My brother?

Well, I have four brothers.

So it didn't sound like the Ones that I converse with all the time, right? I realized this was my brother who left our home. And by then, it is almost 23 years that since he's been gone.

My mom prayed for that long every day for my brother to come home.

And just as I was about to get to ask, where are you? The phone went dead.

And I said to mom, if he ever called back, remember, don't say anything, but we love you. Come home.

Two weeks later, he called again.

And she was ready at that time. And she said it, son, we love you. Just come home.

And one day, I was just pulling into my garage from work, my phone rang, and someone said, brenda, you won't believe what just happened. Somebody just walked through the door.

And I was like, this is my other brother. What do you want now? Who just walked through the door? He said, your brother just walked through the door. I'm like, well, what does he want now?

Because I have two brothers living side by side.

He said, no, you don't understand.

Your eldest brother, who you have not seen in 20 some years, just walked through the door.

I grabbed all my stuff, threw it in the car, grabbed my kids, because he had not never seen my kids, ran down to my mom's house, and there he was in tears.

He said, the last time I saw you, you were as young as your kids.

But he was very sick.

Could not, could not tell you how he got to Maryland.

He knew he was on a plane.

He does not know how he got a ticket to get to Maryland on that plane. He showed us his wallet. He had $1 in his wallet left.

And my brother is sick, and he just got here, and I need him to be baptized.

So I'm in the choir with my shoes off like I usually do, and I look up and my brother walks through the church doors, and I lose it.

I ran down the aisle barefooted, hugged him in the aisle, and he is weeping, saying, I give up, I give up. I give up.

He got baptized, and it was God who brought you home.

And it was for a reason.

To show us that God still answers prayer.

It may take a while sometimes, but do we have the patience to wait and to see how God will answer? We don't always want God to perform.

Do the answer his way. We want it done. Go away.

But that's my lesson on patience in prayer and allowing God to answer in his timing and in his way.

Davenia: Wow, that's powerful. And, yes, a powerful lesson in waiting.

But I also like how you said, in his way. You know, Annie, you said, what Happens when God doesn't answer. But I believe he always answers.

But sometimes that answer may be not now or not this because I have something better or different for you.

And sometimes the answer is no because God sees the bigger picture. And.

Brenda: And we have to trust God's no. Yes, we have to trust God's. My mom heard no for 20 something years, but she still had to trust that God was doing something.

Davenia: Well, that leads us back to this, this initiative of the trench. I think these are all wonderful examples of. So the trench, praying in the gap, intercessory prayer, praying on behalf of others, petitioning God on behalf of our children.

And that's basically what we've been doing for the last three years or so.

And you know, I, when you introduce the, the concept to me and, and I remember participating in the first trench I had.

You know, it's this time of 21 days of praying, intentionally or at that time, whatever your prayer requests were. And I went into it not knowing what to expect.

But that experience taught me that, that God, he does hear us and he. He does care about us and he does answer prayers. And since that first one, I don't know how many trenches we've done, how many I've participated in, but I have witnessed the working of God and him answering prayers.

And again, back to Annie, sort of your. That question.

It's not to say that every single prayer request has been answered in 21 days the way we pray them, but I can tell you that at least every person who's, who is praying has been changed.

And our kids may still be crazy, but I know for me, I have more faith and more patience and more resolve to keep praying.

And Annie, you had, you experienced a trench recently too? And so how was that for you? I did.

Annie: I remember you talking about it. I said, divinia, I want to be in one. You invited me to one. And I joined it. And it was a bunch of mothers and women coming together to pray for our children and nieces and nephews and grandkids or whatnot.

And it was, I'll tell you what I'm going to say from two perspectives, okay? One, as a mother, to have other people praying for my son was encouraging and talking together about other people's children and to hear, wow, I'm not the only one with these thoughts or ideas and prayers about my child.

And so it was very strengthening. I encourage listeners either join one of Divinia's trenches and Brenda's trenches or start one of your own in your community.

But I'M going to also mention from the other perspective of someone who's been prayed for. So I don't know if you know, but I went through, I've talked about it on our podcast, but breast cancer.

And so when I was initially diagnosed it was, there was so much fear involved and I thought this is it, I'm going to die. And a 13 year old son at home.

So I was, I wanting to, you know, live to be there with him. And so they put my name on our church prayer list.

For the first time in my life I was on the list that I was used to hearing.

And I remember being at home, church was, you know, online. And I'd watch it and I get caught up because my name would be be like Annie Rainey. And I'm like.

And then so many people would text me or call my husband or me or whatever and they'd leave messages saying, annie, we're praying for you. The women's group showed up was.

Was Covid time outside my screen door and they stood outside in 90 degree weather and they prayed for me. I remember just tears coming down my eyes because to have other people for you, to hear your name and to know there were.

And I found out there were people all over the world praying for me because friends would be like my cousin in such and such a country and I had people in India praying for me in England and all this.

Brenda: Wow. It's.

Annie: I think the word I would use is humbling.

Brenda: Yeah.

Annie: And, but also encouraging. It's humbling to say I can't believe they're spending their time praying for me. But the prayers uplifted me, encouraged me. And so now when I'm in this trench group, I was like, I was like so excited to be on the other side where I was praying for other people's because I was like, you know, whether these children know it or not and we're praying for them.

I remember what it was like to be on the other side and so like your brother, you know, for him to come back home and then he felt it, I'm sure, you know, he knew, wow, all these people have been praying for me for years.

Brenda: Yeah.

Annie: In this trench. I was like, these children may not know it now. Who knows if they'll ever know it, but the Holy Spirit, you know, will work on them. And that feeling, divinia to be able to pray for somebody else knowing also that other people have, have been or maybe are praying for me.

It was like full circle. Just a beautiful, beautiful feeling.

Yeah.

Davenia: Yeah. And I think that is the beauty of the, of, of coming together, praying together and intentionally not. But that, you know, that these people are actually praying for you and for your children.

And even those times you can't, you know, times you just can't. But you know that some. Someone else is. And it's so, it's, it's like a little family. And, and, and even after the 21 days, you know, people have said to me, I'm still praying.

Brenda: Yeah.

Davenia: And they'll check in and it can be, you know, months later, how's it going? We're still praying. And so, yeah, that's the, the beauty of, of, of prayer. It's not just a religious act.

It's not just a routine. And, and you know, something we do, because that's what good Christians do. But is. It's, it's this, like you said, Brenda, this relationship with God that's ongoing.

Speaker D: And.

Davenia: And like when you said, when you heard the song, the first thing you did was you called your husband. Right. And. And because you wanted to, because of your relationship with him, you wanted to share.

And I think that's how it is or should be with God. Right. You know, something joyous, having, oh, my goodness, I can't wait to tell the Father. And, or I'm going through some dilemma, some problem.

And like, oh, let me, Let me just go talk to God.

And this, the experiences of the trench has taught me how to do that Divinion.

Annie: Can I interrupt you? I gotta ask you a question real quick, Divinia, since you just asked me a question.

Well, listeners, as you know, Dr. Divinia Lee, of course, has written these great books. The Shulamite series. That's what our retreat was based on which the retreat was an amazing experience.

And we prayed together as women. It was wonderful. And the book. Those books were amazing. Are amazing. They're two books out. Listeners, please, if you haven't. I'm not. This is not about promotion.

This is about you will be blessed if you get these books. And I know we'll put links in, in, in in all our podcasts. But. But, okay, so those are wonderful.

I would say Christian fiction books that are amazing and really draw you in to these women's experiences and what they're going through. But Divinia, I know, I heard about this, but I need you to tell me a little bit more because you wrote this book outside of the Shulamite series, and it's something about prayer or something.

What is the title and what is that book about?

Davenia: Yeah, so, you know, it's another one of those God things, right.

So we've been talking about these trenches that we've been facilitating.

And so as a part of the trench, you come together 21 days, you're praying for specific prayer requests. Every single day, you're praying scripture. And so during the 21 days, I would send a scripture that we would focus on a prayer, songs of encouragement and resources for 21 days.

Well, and then we'd have another trench, but the focus is different. So then that's another set of prayers or scriptures and so forth. And someone in one of the trenches said, wow, I wish these prayers were compiled somewhere in one place, but so I don't have to keep scrolling through emails to find them again.

And I said, oh, I could put those together for you as a PDF and send it to you. And she said, well, it would really be nice if that was a book.

And I thought, yeah, that would be great. And maybe I'll take that on next year, because right now I'm trying to finish the second book in the series, and I'm trying to plan this retreat, and that's about all I can handle right now.

And, and, and then it's like God spoke to me and said, no, I. I want that book to, to come out, and I want it to come out before January 2025.

And so I called Brenda and I told her, and she's like, okay. And so we just.

I don't. God, He. He. He made it happen. And so as of what, a few weeks ago, it, it, it's out, it's done, It's. It's published. It's called let's Pray for Family Fuel, and it's a weekly prayer devotion, praying for our children.

And it's really. It's. It's. I would also say it's. It's a, A Bible.

It's a study guide, too. Right? So every week there's a scripture for you to focus on and there's a prayer, but then it's daily prompts so that you can delve into that scripture and you can personalize the prayers and, and you can cultivate that relationship between you and God and, and, and record what he reveals to you.

So this is sort of a guide to, to support you along that prayer journey.

Brenda: Well, you know, Divinia, you're. You're being very humble in this process. But let me just, let me just, let me just put it like this.

For, for people like me who may not have the time to deal with specifics, let's say my Child needs deliverance, right?

How do I pray for, for that child? What. What do I say to God?

Well, Divinia has packaged it so that I could turn to page number, and I'm just going to pull a page, page number 45, and it will say deliverance right there.

And all the information is there. There's a prayer for deliverance. There are texts to study for deliverance. There are prompts to help you as a parent deal with, with your child in, you know, in that fashion.

And you have this for 52 weeks of the year. So girlfriend has covered you and your children for the entire year. There's nothing that your child will go through that you won't be able to find the resource in that book as to how to approach God on behalf of, of your children.

She's taken all the work, bless her.

Davenia: Heart, done all the work.

Brenda: And because of that, life is a lot more easy for people like me who just now need to pick it up and apply it and believe that God has inspired her to do it.

And if he has, then certainly there are answers in this book that some parent needs right now.

Annie: Are these prayers, Divinia, you wrote those prayers?

Davenia: Yes.

Annie: Okay, listeners, listen. You need to listen, listen, listen to me right now. Because let me tell you, like I said, I've been born praying, okay? Let me tell you when I was going through, um, so again, being diagnosed with cancer and everything, and I was freaking out and I'm gonna die and, you know, just so scared.

I'm praying, okay? And everybody's praying for me. So I reach out and tell Divinia what's going on. Long story. You gotta go listen to episode, I don't know, one of series, the first episode we ever put out, I think.

And you hear where Divinia is because she's out in the Arctic Ocean. No, wait, I don't know, Antarctic, Antarctica, on a cruise ship in the COVID And somehow she has Wi Fi, whatever.

So she's emailing me. And so I'm sitting here like, I got cancer. I'm scared. Yet this girl is out there in the Antarctica. You know, who knows if she's going to come home because the ship was out at sea for like months, right?

But what does she do? She emails me and I was like, oh, okay, it's an email for Divinia. So I open it up and I'm just crying because it was the most beautiful, encouraging.

And I'm an English professor, okay? So I love words and I love to read. Okay, I was just weeping. It was so articulate, but yet soft and beautiful. Not this pompous, you know, oh, Thai vocabulary.

I couldn't understand it, but yet eloquent and just. And like I said, I pray. And I'm an English professor, so, I mean, okay, I can write English, but this prayer that she wrote was just.

I read it so many times while I was going through, you know, cancer treatment, and whenever I was scared, I'd opening it, open it up, and it would just. It would give me encouragement and just give me peace and calm.

She sent me several throughout, you know, my treatment. So let me tell you, you should be jealous of me being friends with Divinia, because if. If any of you are friends with Divinia and you've ever called out to her and said, I'm going through this and my child and my husband and this and that, she will send you a prayer.

Do it now, folks, and you will.

Davenia: And guess what?

Annie: If you don't know Divinia, buy this book. I'm not trying to make money on this, because she's not making a lot of money off of this. Trust me. I'm not. Get no money.

Davenia: No money.

Annie: Oh, she's not even making any money.

Wait a minute now. I'm gonna pray for you, but you need to get this book. And you will see what I mean. Once you read one of those prayers, it is definitely God given.

Brenda: Yeah, and. And. And that's what I really would like to stress, because these are not prayers. That's Divinia's words, right?

Davenia: No, they are not my words.

Brenda: The prayers are biblically based.

So whatever God has said about deliverance, she has packaged his words and is presenting it back to him in prayer from her heart.

But now, you know, God cannot lie.

So if he said the words, she's written it with expectation that God will fulfill his word. And that's the beauty of it for me, because, you know, we. We can talk and spout our own words, but do our words have power?

No.

Only God's words have power. So when we use his words in prayer, we are assured that we are. Our ammunition is there. We have some power to back us, and we know that God will not fail us.

That's the powerful thing about this book.

It's written in a way that when you read it, you know, God inspired it.

Annie: On the back of that, I know you shared with us one of the Gaither vocal bands songs. That was your miracle. But is there another song, let's say a song that you now currently listen to all the Time that, I don't know, just encourages you.

Brenda: And you know, when, when I hear the song Somebody Prayed For Me, you can't listen to the words of that and not relate it to your own life and your own experience.

And so when, when I sent that song to the young man that I, that, that inspired me for Trenches, it was, it was life changing for him.

Davenia: Wait, so you have to explain. So this is a song that. And listeners are faithful listeners. You, you know Angela Bryant, we've had her on a couple times.

She, she and I collaborated and, and she composed this song, Someone Prayed.

And it was just supposed to be for our little initiative and it, it has just blessed so many.

So folks, you all have a book to get. Let's pray for family fuel. And not just a book for your reading pleasure, but, but it's, it's for your life transformation.

And so we are wanting to get at least a thousand mothers praying in 2025 because we believe in the power of prayer. We've experienced the power of prayer.

And our children are not going to be casualties of this war. Our children are going to be saved and delivered and healed and restored. And so get the book. You can get the paperback book, you can get the ebook.

You can even go online and just get the PDF of it for free. Because it's not about the selling of books. It's about the transformation of lives and our belief in the power of prayer.

Annie: People back home, Divinya, where can they, where online can they get this book?

Davenia: They can get it on Amazon and it'll be a link. We'll share the links too, so they can get it, the book, ebook, paperback on Amazon or PDF on our website.

Annie: Listeners, I promise you, this book, you have got to get it. It will change your life so much more for the better. Brenda, I want to thank you so much for being our guest today.

It's been such a pleasure.

Brenda: Oh, thank you for having me in.

Annie: Talk to you, Divinia. You're going to have to have her on again because I got lots of more questions now.

Davenia: Yes, yes.

Annie: And that Angela song, just listeners, if you haven't heard the song, you got to listen to it. And then also go back and listen to Brenda's story about her brother because it's as though that song was written about him, even though Angela didn't know that.

But wow, God is so amazing. And I want to close by reading Bible verse John 14, 13 and 14 says, and whatsoever you shall ask in my name, that will I do that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

If ye shall ask anything in my name, I will do it. I want to end our podcast differently than we ever have. And what I would like to do is, Brenda, I'm gonna actually put you on the spot here.

If you could close our podcast out today with a small prayer for our podcast so that it reaches people that need to hear this message and for our listeners, would you be willing to do that for us?

Brenda: Sure, sure.

Okay, let's pray. God, today we have a new chance.

Every new day. We have brand new mercies.

And so we come to you with expectancy.

You brought us together as sisters in Christ, but God, you've have listeners who are also your children, wherever they are today.

And each one of us have experiences, we have issues, we have challenges, we have children that we are concerned about.

And today, God, we just want to rejoice and say thank you that you've provided this precious tool in the form of this book that's going to change our lives forever.

Thank you that you have already confirmed that you will hear and answer our prayers.

And for each listener on the line, God, I just thank you that nothing that they're going through is impossible for you to take care of.

As challenging as it is, God, you already have answers for each one of us and you have your timing that you have already set in motion. If we will just ask.

And so we ask today, God, hear our prayers.

We ask today that you will take all of our burdens and our cares.

We cast it upon you knowing that you care for us.

And God, you promise to make the yoke easy and the burden light.

Let every listener now as they close this podcast, let everyone take a deep breath and feel the lightness of your presence as you walk with us throughout this day. In Jesus name, amen.

Amen.

Annie: Listeners, may the power of prayer in Jesus name be a blessing to you in 2025 and in the years to come. From our heart to yours, this song's for you.